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How much do motivated sellers really come down? Ranges by situation, and the limits behind them
Updated · by the LowBaller team
Motivated sellers can come down much further than listed sellers, but how far depends on three limits: their equity, their deadline and how many other buyers are bidding. LowBaller's model targets likely closes around 35 to 45 percent under estimated value on hard distress and 15 to 30 percent under on softer situations. Those are model targets, not results measured on closed deals. Nobody publishes a reliable average for off-market discounts, so be wary of anyone who quotes one to the decimal.
This guide gives the ranges by situation, then the arithmetic behind each limit: a worked equity cap, a deadline that changes the seller's real options, and what happens to your number when other investors write to the same owner. Use it to set a number the seller can actually say yes to, and that still leaves them something.
How much below market value will a motivated seller accept?
Start with the baseline. On listed homes, discounts are small. Redfin reported in February 2026 that 62.2 percent of 2025 homebuyers paid less than list price, and the typical buyer who did got 7.9 percent off. Those are sellers with time, an agent and a buyer who usually needs a loan.
Off-market motivated sellers are a different market. Their discount comes from the situation, not from haggling. The table shows the discount bands by situation: LowBaller's offer model targets where the model sets them, and illustrative planning ranges in between. Hard distress means a dated, forced outcome, such as a scheduled auction or years of unpaid taxes. Soft situations, like a tired landlord two states away, have no clock.
Treat each row as a planning range, not a promise. Stacked signals on one property, such as a notice of default on a vacant, inherited house, push toward the deep end. A single soft signal stays shallow. And every row assumes the owner has the equity to accept it, which many do not.
| Seller situation | Start bid (under value) | Likely close (under value) | Basis | What usually sets the floor |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Auction scheduled | 40 to 50% | 35 to 45% | Model target | Payoff plus arrears and foreclosure fees |
| Property taxes unpaid for several years | 40 to 50% | 35 to 45% | Model target | Tax debt plus any mortgage |
| Pre-foreclosure, no sale date yet | 25 to 40% | Set by the payoff | Illustrative | Payoff plus missed payments |
| Vacant for a long time | 20 to 35% | Set by the carrying costs | Illustrative | Carrying costs and condition |
| Inherited or in probate | 20 to 35% | Set by the heirs' agreement | Illustrative | What every heir will sign |
| Tired absentee owner | 15 to 30% | Within 15 to 30% | Model target | Nothing forces a sale |
| Any situation with little equity | Capped by the payoff | Often no deal | Equity cap | The loan balance |
Start bid by situation (midpoint of each band)
Why hard distress supports deeper discounts
A deadline changes what the seller compares your offer to. An owner with no pressure compares it to a full-price listing. An owner with an auction in four weeks compares it to the auction, where the price is set by whoever bids that day, and any money left after the debt comes back slowly, under rules that vary by state.
That is why both of LowBaller's scoring systems put dated distress first. The motivation weights behind its free tools give a scheduled auction 40 points and an in-state absentee owner 5. The paid list uses a timing-based Deal Score, where an auction 3 to 30 days out scores 92 pressure points and one more than 120 days away scores 55. Freshness matters as much as type: a notice of default filed in the last 30 days scores 66, and one older than a year scores 18.
The soft end works differently. A tired landlord or an heir who lives far away wants out, but can wait. Your discount there is the price of convenience: no repairs, no showings, no commission, one closing. That is worth real money to them, just not 40 percent. For every record signal and what it means, see signs a seller will accept a lowball offer.
Limit 1: equity, the floor no seller can go under
Motivation sets how far a seller wants to go. Equity sets how far they can go. An owner cannot sell for less than their loan payoff plus closing costs unless they bring cash to the closing table, and a seller in distress almost never has it.
Example: four owners of the same $300,000 house, each facing the same deadline, each owing a different amount. Closing costs are about $6,000 here, or 2 percent; seller closing costs without a commission typically run about 1 to 3 percent, so check yours.
Take the owner with 40 percent equity. A 38 percent discount works on paper, but it leaves them nothing. LowBaller's paid list only shows a house when a likely price at least 20 percent under value still clears the open loan and leaves the owner at least 10 percent of the value. Use the same test yourself: $180,000 owed plus $30,000 puts the lowest fair price at $210,000, or 30 percent under. The 20 percent equity owner would not appear on that list at all, because it requires 25 percent or more estimated equity.
| Payoff on a $300,000 house | Owner's equity | Seller's floor (payoff plus about $6,000) | Deepest discount before the owner nets zero | What a fair offer looks like |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| $240,000 | 20% | $246,000 | 18% | Only a shallow discount fits; a 40% offer would need the owner to bring $66,000 |
| $180,000 | 40% | $186,000 | 38% | 25 to 30% under leaves the owner $24,000 to $39,000 |
| $120,000 | 60% | $126,000 | 58% | Equity is no longer the limit; the deadline and rival buyers are |
| $0 (paid off) | 100% | $6,000 | 98% | Only fairness and competition limit the number |
Motivation without equity is not a deal
An owner who owes close to what the house is worth cannot take a deep lowball, however urgent the deadline. If they owe more than it is worth, the lender sets the price in a short sale. Check the payoff before you name a number.
Limit 2: the deadline, and what the seller's other options pay
A deadline only supports a deep discount when it removes the seller's better options. If the owner can still list the house and close before the sale date, the listing is what you compete with, and a 40 percent discount is a bad trade for them.
Example: a $400,000 house, a $200,000 payoff including missed payments, and a foreclosure auction in 35 days. The listing path assumes the sale could be postponed long enough to list, which is not always possible. The commission and closing costs of about 6 percent are an example, and both are negotiable.
If the listing path is open, the seller should take it or ask for close to it, and a fair buyer says so. If it is closed, because the date cannot move or the house needs work a lender will not accept, the real comparison is your cash offer against the auction. That is where the deep end of the range lives. Even then, 40 percent under leaves this owner about $31,700, while 25 percent under leaves about $90,500. That difference is the deposit on their next home.
| Seller's path | Price | Costs and payoff | Seller nets | Time to cash |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| List with an agent (only if the sale can be postponed) | $380,000 | $22,800 commission and closing, $15,000 repairs and credits, $14,000 more interest and fees, $200,000 payoff | $128,200 | About 4 months |
| Cash offer 25% under | $300,000 | $6,000 closing, $3,500 more interest and fees, $200,000 payoff | $90,500 | About 3 weeks |
| Cash offer 40% under | $240,000 | $4,800 closing, $3,500 more interest and fees, $200,000 payoff | $31,700 | About 3 weeks |
| Do nothing: the auction | Set by the bidders | Payoff, fees and costs of the sale | Uncertain; any surplus depends on the bids and state law | Weeks to months, if anything |
Limit 3: other buyers bidding for the same house
The third limit is the one most guides skip. A seller who gets three cash offers does not take the lowest. The deeper your discount, the more room you leave a competitor to beat you and still make money.
Example: the same $400,000 house. You offer $240,000. A second investor offers $270,000, cash and as-is, with proof of funds. If both look equally certain, the seller should take $270,000, and the discount on that house is now 32.5 percent, whatever anyone's model said. Your choices are to match with a real reason, trade a term the seller values, or let it go.
Competition is uneven, and that is where your edge is. A sale date next week is on every list in town. These situations usually see far fewer offers, so getting there first is worth more than any negotiating line:
- Fresh filings: a notice of default in its first 30 days has months of runway and few letters so far.
- Probate and inherited houses: court records are slow to read, so fewer buyers work them.
- Entity owners: companies, trusts and estates have no personal phone to find, so mail is the only way in, and many buyers skip them.
What does not move the number
Aggression does not deepen discounts; deadlines do. Scripts do not; certainty does. The seller's asking price usually does not either, because most motivated sellers off the market have never set one. The discount lives in the situation.
What you control is the certainty you offer. Each of these is worth real money to a seller under pressure, and it is fair to trade them for price:
- Cash with proof of funds, so no lender can kill the deal. The math is in cash offer vs financed.
- As-is, with no repair requests after inspection.
- Closing on the seller's date, before the auction or tax sale.
- Handling the cleanout, so heirs or a landlord do not have to.
- A short, specific inspection period instead of an open-ended one.
How to put the three limits together on one house
Here is one house run through every check, in the order you should run them. Example: a $300,000 house, a $150,000 payoff, an auction in 25 days, an after-repair value of $340,000 and $35,000 of repairs.
Your ceiling comes from the 70 percent rule: 70 percent of $340,000 is $238,000, minus $35,000 of repairs, so $203,000. The fair floor, where the owner keeps 10 percent of value, is $180,000. That leaves a workable zone from $180,000 to $203,000. Open at $180,000 with a reason, expect to land between $180,000 and $195,000, and walk away above $203,000.
Run your own numbers in the lowball offer calculator, which caps the offer so it still clears the owner's estimated mortgage and closing costs.
| Check | Number | Under value | What it tells you |
|---|---|---|---|
| Model start bid (hard distress) | $156,000 to $180,000 | 40 to 48% | Where the model would open; the equity cap lifts the low end to the floor |
| Model likely close (hard distress) | $165,000 to $195,000 | 35 to 45% | Where the model expects a deal to land |
| Seller's floor (payoff plus about $6,000) | $156,000 | 48% | Below this the owner must bring cash; no deal |
| Fair floor (owner keeps 10% of value) | $180,000 | 40% | Your lowest honest number |
| Your ceiling (70 percent rule) | $203,000 | 32% | Above this you lose money; walk away |
Is a deep discount fair to the seller?
It can be. A deep discount is fair when it trades price for things the seller genuinely needs: a closing before the auction, no repairs, no commission and a deal that will not fall through. It is not fair when the seller has no pressure and you are counting on them not knowing what the house is worth.
Three habits keep you on the right side. Show the seller what they net, in dollars, not just your price. Give them time to check your number with an agent, an attorney or a HUD-approved housing counselor. And never misstate their situation or invent a deadline.
To see how many sellers near you are in a situation where the math can work, run the free market scan. It takes about 2 minutes and needs no card. The paid list then ranks each owner by the Deal Score and suggests a start bid and a likely close.
Frequently asked questions
Will a motivated seller accept 50 percent of market value?
Rarely. Half of value only fits when everything lines up: a near auction or tax sale, a house that cannot be listed in time, 60 percent or more equity and few competing buyers. Without a forced deadline and deep equity, a 50 percent offer is unlikely to close, and it may not leave the seller enough to move.
What is a fair offer to a motivated seller?
A fair offer clears the seller's mortgage payoff, liens and closing costs, leaves them real cash, and beats their realistic alternative after costs and risk. Measure it against the auction, the growing tax bill or a listing they could actually complete in time, not against an online estimate. Then show them the net in dollars.
Do cash offers get bigger discounts from motivated sellers?
Yes, when the seller has a deadline. Cash removes the lender, the appraisal and weeks of waiting, so the deal is far less likely to fall apart before an auction or tax sale. How much that certainty is worth depends on the timeline. With no deadline, a strong financed offer often beats a thinner cash one.
How much do pre-foreclosure sellers come down?
It depends on the sale date and the equity. Before a sale date, plan a start bid around 25 to 40 percent under value; once an auction is set, LowBaller's model targets 40 to 50 percent under. The payoff is a hard floor: an owner who owes 80 percent of value can come down about 18 percent at most.
Why won't a motivated seller come down on price?
Usually because they cannot, not because they will not. If the payoff plus closing costs sits near your offer, they would have to bring cash to close. Other reasons include no real deadline, a listing path that still works, a competing cash offer, or heirs who have not agreed. Ask what their number is based on.
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